tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post9024392877170029918..comments2010-09-04T12:29:54.050+08:00Comments on Loud Silent Monologues: THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORYhunnyjodihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07390803054423765319noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-20926376153853808582009-01-21T00:13:00.000+08:002009-01-21T00:13:00.000+08:00If you must know, I had to get the facts first, th...If you must know, I had to get the facts first, that's why I said I'm telling it on behalf of the Pangandamans. This was posted on the date it came out, tags were added later on thus the "late" post. <BR/><BR/>A brawl is a brawl. If you're in a middle of one, would you even bother asking the person's age if he's about to hit you in the face? Age is no longer an issue here. Given that Bino is 14, would you be able to tell how old he is if you see him for the first time considering his height and build? If you see me, would you be able to tell how old I am? What about Mr Dela Paz? He's far older than Nasser Jr. Are you saying it was OK for him to hit just anyone because of his age? What happened was unfortunate, and that cannot be undone. <BR/><BR/>Now that Valley has come out with its results to the investigation, do you say you doubt their findings? As one golfer has said (he's a columnist on one of the broadsheets and a member of VGCC), the people on the BOD of VGCC have impeccable reputations, being past presidents and members of Valley. No amount of money or influence can sway them to favor one over the other.hunnyjodihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07390803054423765319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-38423564802652755872009-01-18T17:12:00.000+08:002009-01-18T17:12:00.000+08:00If you're telling the truth, then it's Bambee's ba...If you're telling the truth, then it's Bambee's bad not to tell some parts of the story.<BR/><BR/>However, despite of your story, it is still VERY CLEAR that Pangandamans abused the two dela Paz.<BR/><BR/>We're not blind. We could see the pictures.<BR/><BR/>And like one of the comments here said, "Why did it take too long before you produce your own side?".<BR/><BR/>Mmmm.. Oh well, it's really hard to think of details that would seem to be true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-36117897574428048602009-01-11T19:26:00.000+08:002009-01-11T19:26:00.000+08:00At the end of the day, sabi nga ni Korina Sanchez,...At the end of the day, sabi nga ni Korina Sanchez, "Sino ba ang duguan? Sino ba ang nambugbog ng minor?"<BR/><BR/>Kung matino kang tao na may pinag-aralan, at sigawan ka o murahin ka ng isang 14 years old, bubugbugin mo na ba ito?Elyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10617000906963612080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-76763190212018915102009-01-10T02:40:00.000+08:002009-01-10T02:40:00.000+08:00Clash of ego ang nangyari.. isang mayaman at isang...Clash of ego ang nangyari.. isang mayaman at isang politico…. pang maykaya lang ang golf e di ba… status symbol…. pati anak ni dela paz e naglalaro… gentleman’s game daw ang golf…PWE! ang asal ng mga yan e hoodlum…pare-pareho kayo.<BR/>imbes na pairalin ang pasensya at tumawag ng marshall... sportman ba <BR/>ang mga yan? binaboy lang ang spirit of golf...<BR/><BR/>yang mga pulitikong mga yan, ang yayabang pati mga bodyguards… e sineswelduhan lang naman ng taumbayan…akala mo na kung sino.. idamay niyo pa yang mga pulis, militar, konsehal at pati hamak na barangay tanod…<BR/>Kaya lang kung iisipin, yang mga dela Paz e mayaman din kasi(kaya afford maggolf)…tinamaan ang mga ego sa paglalaro ng golf due to violation of rules… away ng mga mayayabang at may ere…nagpa-awa effect din na kesyo matanda na yung tatay… tapos yung anak e may hangin din sa ulo..nakikita naman sa pagsasalita e.. paingles-ingles...<BR/><BR/>gaya sa badminton sa corporate, daming mayabang din(gaya ng duktor na ulol na naglalaro sa centro-inihian ko sasakyan mo gago!) at ngayon lang yata nakapaglaro ng competitive game… hindi nakakaintindi ng pagkatalo or sportsmanship…mga PWE!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15180130132253603257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-45200058513105968312009-01-09T17:09:00.000+08:002009-01-09T17:09:00.000+08:00ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES! Sa bansa natin, kapag ord...ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES! Sa bansa natin, kapag ordinaryong mamamayan ka lang, WALA kang karapatan na pumalag sa mga taong may pwesto, mga taong may panunungkulan KAHIT NA TAMA KA O MALI MAN SILA. ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES do you see people who blatantly abuse their influence in society. This is not a case/issue of race being both parties are citizens of the philippines. This is not also an issue/case of religion since the cause of the brawl was not religion. This is a case/issue/matter of principle. The agrieved party (Dela Paz) stood up to the likes of the abusive Pangandamans. Kung hindi ba abusado ang mga muslim na ito, pamu-mukha ba nya "kung sino sya?" Para sabihing "Kilala mo ba ako?" porket mayor ka ng isang NAPAKALIIT at NAPAKA-INSIGNIFICANT na town sa Lanao, siga ka na?? Anong laban ng mga Dela Paz sa mga bodyguard mong may mga high-powered na armas? Anong laban ng isang matanda at bata sa inyo? Kung sa lakas at impluwensya, wala silang ibubuga sa mga Pangandaman pero kung principle ang pag-uusapan, walang binatbat ang mga Pangandaman. Kahit yung tatay nilang DAR secretary, ungas din. Tapos sasabihin nyang apektado ang pamilya nya sa mga nangyari? Aba dapat lang! Kung hindi ba naman kayo isang libo't isang mga BOBO dapat lang na maapektuhan ang pamilya nyo sa karumal dumal na ginawa nyo! In plain words, ang kakapal ng mga mukha nyo! Sec. pangandaman, kung may natitira ka pang konting delicadesa, kung may natitira ka pang konting hiya (pero sa palagay ko ay WALA), dapat mag resign ka na sa pwesto mo. Pero syempre, KAPIT ka ng PINAKA-CORRUPT na gobyerno sa buong mundo, hindi ka nga bibitaw sa pwesto mo. PAKAPALAN NA LANG NG MUKHA YAN and USUALLY, sa experience ko lang, TALAGANG MAKAKAPAL ANG MUKHA NG MGA MUSLIM. Tingnan nyo na lang sa Quiapo at sa Greenhills. Nasa dugo nila yan.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507439549041971094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-61396041707176654102009-01-08T08:39:00.000+08:002009-01-08T08:39:00.000+08:00ARROGANCE and IGNORANCE always go together. And t...ARROGANCE and IGNORANCE always go together. And they have a last name: PANGANDAMAN. Nice defense!PinoyApachehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13416293904916124490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-30431145398761148372009-01-06T20:08:00.000+08:002009-01-06T20:08:00.000+08:00Keshia, kalahi daw nila si Wolverine tsaka Steven ...Keshia, kalahi daw nila si Wolverine tsaka Steven Seagal.<BR/><BR/>Now, about that pride of white Bengal tigers that I'm selling for cheap...Prankoyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11718433460126979644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-81942040548046607812009-01-06T13:39:00.000+08:002009-01-06T13:39:00.000+08:00I'm a little skeptical. Feeling ko pareho lang kay...I'm a little skeptical. Feeling ko pareho lang kayo ng mga dela Paz na selective ang kinukuwento.<BR/><BR/>Weren't Hussein and Nasser Jr. shown on TV yesterday filing the countercharges? Huwag mo sabihing may unnatural miraculous healing powers siya kaya napakakinis ng neck and face niya at wala man lang marks ng SUPPOSED scratches ni Bambee sa kanya?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08438895665766435064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-35284931113852736552009-01-06T01:43:00.000+08:002009-01-06T01:43:00.000+08:00Well written. In the first place, if you pass a pl...Well written. In the first place, if you pass a player for you to occupy the next hole, as a courtesy you should inform and ask permission first. But lumalabas na walang paalam o permiso yung grupo ni Mayor. Kahit na nauna pa kayo sa listahan, meron ng naglalaro. Kaya either hintayin niyo silang matapos at huwag niyo silang unahan kasi nga pag mabagal kayo, maabala at maasar pa sila.<BR/><BR/>Please don't mention muslim as this is a very sensitive word to your brother and sisters in Islam. The famous line from muslims is this: "Your enemy is my enemy". It's very scary word. The small misunderstanding may spread into war like a wildfire. You don't want a depressed muslim brother blowing itself up in his belief that by doing so against non-believers will make his creator great.Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00926906862189321963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-20320270163678445892009-01-05T07:49:00.000+08:002009-01-05T07:49:00.000+08:00well its good you have your side of the story. lik...well its good you have your side of the story. like i said before i hope the truth and justice will prevail... just a favor lets drop the christian-muslim angle.... for centuries wars and conflicts were based on this prejudice, does not do us any good, maybe its time we argue our rights as filipinos. rich, poor, christian, muslim, elite, masa etc... maybe we argue for what is correct and right. i dont mean only the author but everybody including those who make their comments... just focus on what is right and correct, leave the regional bias, religion, social status and position. <BR/>frankly i have a few problems in some points of your story although i agree in some but its not for me to judge... im sure both sides have their biases in their narration. its just a tragedy all this happened in a golf course...xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14960678633781302653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-7775189193830506762009-01-05T02:09:00.000+08:002009-01-05T02:09:00.000+08:00I wish some people would stop trying to turn this ...I wish some people would stop trying to turn this into a race/religion issue. This has nothing to do with Islam, or where the Pangandamans hail from. The main issue is the degree of violence employed by the DAR secretary and his son, the mayor of Masiu, against another family, over a simple golf game.<BR/><BR/>If this story is indeed the truth, then there really is no need to drag race and religion into the picture.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, this story seriously comes off as incredible. It paints the Pangandamans as innocent, patient, non-confrontational, oh-so-humble and decent people, while the Dela Pazes are portrayed as evil, face-punching, umbrella-of-death-wielding warmongers whose women apparently have bear claws for hands. So this father-and-son duo, both politicians and both accustomed to throwing their weight around and getting their way, backed down from a confrontation with a bunch of irate golfers. Sure, and if you believe that, I have an entire pride of white Bengal tigers for sale...<BR/><BR/>It also omits the presence of the Pangandamans' armed bodyguards. Hopefully the writer isn't insulting the readers' intelligence by suggesting they had none. A government secretary and a mayor, both not in their home territory, gallivanting about without an escort? Please.<BR/><BR/>The fact that none of the Pangandamans have come forward to show the scars and bruises from the wounds they supposedly suffered further sheds doubt on this story. Seriously, if they were so injured as this story states, how hard would it be to show what wounds their assailants inflicted on them? The Dela Pazes did it within days of the incident, why can't they?<BR/><BR/>Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Dela Paz family is completely innocent in this. They may very well have been as arrogant and full of themselves as the story suggests. Being rich and/or famous does that to people, and I find it completely believable that the Dela Paz family acted like the typical "upper-class" people in this country.<BR/><BR/>However, that does not excuse anyone, especially public "servants", to pummel them senseless.<BR/><BR/>Honestly, as far as I'm concerned, both families should be thrown in an arena to beat each other to death with golf clubs, baseball bats or whatever implements they feel like using. I hold no sympathy for people who are callous and and selfish enough to waste gratuitous amounts of money and resources to play golf while half the nation starves and suffers for their excesses.Prankoyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11718433460126979644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-423786077835011642009-01-05T01:43:00.000+08:002009-01-05T01:43:00.000+08:00I've read both posts and have read forum discussio...I've read both posts and have read forum discussions on various sites. But how can one discount claims from golfers who saw the incident at VGCC, who are neither acquainted with the parties involved?<BR/><BR/>At least give the blog the benefit of the doubt. Just because she is retelling the incident doesn't mean that she's being selective of which parts should and shouldn't be on the blog. As hunnyjodi had stated, "on behalf of the Pangandamans." Bambee has her own blog already, does that mean the other party directly involved should start making one to defend his side of the story? I think that would just add heat to his already hot situation..<BR/><BR/>Lastly, the religion part she's mentioning must be pertaining to the hate comments the Pangandaman family and Muslims in general are getting. We're calling them names, but in doing so, who's being barbaric and uncouth?<BR/><BR/>Just my two cents.Savvyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07960861510437273306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-38293428972232873632009-01-05T00:19:00.000+08:002009-01-05T00:19:00.000+08:00I heard the other side of the story sa radio, an i...I heard the other side of the story sa radio, an interview with Noli De Castro. I still doubt their side of the story, and now, i also have doubts with Bambee's blog. But you see.. first, i never thought the issue of religion will be raised in this case. second, no matter how bad the dela pazes are, hindi pa rin dpat nangyre yung bugbugan. <BR/><BR/>The fact na nambugbog sila ng taong hindi naman sila kayang patayin ... totally wrong! <BR/><BR/>I see the point na siguro nga nauna maghamon ang mga de la paz, pero mali pa rin eh. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, this is just me speaking. If i were one of the de la pazes, i would definitely get nothing and gain nothing from this. Matatakot n ko actually ngayon. So I don't think bambee wrote her blog so that she would get the "publicity" so to speak. But, I am not one of them so yeah, just me speaking.<BR/><BR/>I just wish that the truth will prevail.joyceturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18033097973484089818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-27632251900159332772009-01-04T23:25:00.000+08:002009-01-04T23:25:00.000+08:00desperateblogger, very well said. i agree with you...desperateblogger, very well said. i agree with you. :)<BR/><BR/>"kaya mo kayang mag pa ka cool kung mura-murahin ka na at sundu-sundutin ng payong? "Bai a Labihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07259700451364609236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-31721915066183456922009-01-04T19:20:00.000+08:002009-01-04T19:20:00.000+08:00not a first person narrative, so minus points na a...not a first person narrative, so minus points na agad<BR/><BR/>if nasser jr. would be blogging pwede ko pa icompare<BR/><BR/>marami pa ring butas yung kwento na yan e<BR/><BR/>in the first place, bakit walang pasa si nasser jr if he got beaten by a golf club? masakit yun! dapat may pasa sya if he got hitSarah Falconehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07326203706352959844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-66858444408430484712009-01-04T17:03:00.000+08:002009-01-04T17:03:00.000+08:00for me its not a case of religion or pera.. kasi b...for me its not a case of religion or pera.. kasi both of them have that. <BR/><BR/>Its more of character. Who, between the two parties has a good character. And from the looks of it.. according to news and opinions... mas ok ang mga dela paz. PR problem for pangandamans.<BR/><BR/>Also, why did it took long for the pangandamans to air their side? To give their details? <BR/><BR/>You can't blame the people for taking the side of the Dela paz's. Why? Kasi yun ang unang detalye na nakita nila eh. <BR/><BR/>Also, nasan si mayor? where is his side of the story?<BR/><BR/>Isa pa... sobra namang nabugbog yung mag ama... as public officials... mas maganda sa camera na sila ang nabugbog kesa sila ang nambugbog diba?<BR/><BR/>you see.. both sides may mali.. but ang tatatak sa isip ng tao... sino ba ang nasa pwesto? Sino ang mas nakasakit?<BR/><BR/>akala ko tahimik na laro ang golf. maingay din pala... may bugbugan pa.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04957527947105842218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-14694887613841060972009-01-04T16:59:00.000+08:002009-01-04T16:59:00.000+08:00GAGO din pala itong blogger na ito! Nandoon ka ba?...GAGO din pala itong blogger na ito! Nandoon ka ba? Wala ka naman doon! Legal counsel ka ba? Balikan mo nga ulit yang sinasabi mo, tingnan mong mabuti kung may sense yang pinagsasabi mo? What you just written here has no consistency. Just think and think hard, ponder on the circumstances: a 56 yr old man with graying hair and a 14 yr old boy (a small boy at that) starting a fight with an able-bodied mayor and armed body guards?? I mean where is the logic here? It is VERY obvious this was a case of ABUSE. Syempre, mayor sya at feeling untouchable. Alam mo naman sa pinas, kapag government official ka o employee (kahit nga driver ng truck ng basura na merong "Office of the Mayor" na nakatatak sa truck ng basura) akala mo kung sino ka na. Akala mo wala ka nang kamatayan. It doesnt take an intelligent person to figure out who is telling the truth, whose statement is consistent. Lalo na mga Moro--kung umasta akala mo kanila ang mundo. Mayor Pangandaman TOTALLY FORGOT that he was in Luzon, totally outside his influence and jurisdiction. Kung sa Lanao kaya nilang takutin ang kapwa nila moro, hindi dito sa Luzon, hindi sa Antipolo. This is not just an issue about golf etiquette, this is clearly an issue of abuse. This is a trademark in the philippines I dare say. This is nothing new. What is new however is how an ordinary citizen like Dela Paz would rise up and make a stand against a stinking tradition in philippine politics. Ngayon may mga death threat ang mga Dela Paz. Pag may masamang nangyari sa kanila, kailangan pa ba nating manghula kung sino ang salarin?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507439549041971094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-59771047564528528652009-01-04T14:58:00.000+08:002009-01-04T14:58:00.000+08:00This has nothing to do with being a Moslem. But mo...This has nothing to do with being a Moslem. But most Pinoys are Islamo-phobic. In that regard, the most practical way to approach Islamo-phobia is not to stoop down to the level of the Islamo-phobic. <BR/><BR/>Mayor Pangandaman's case is worse. Whether he is a Moslem or a Christian, he is an elected official, the son of the DAR secretary!!! I must be dumb. Then it gets really, really worse, the fight involved a kid and an old man.<BR/><BR/>-- over a game of golf, a decent man's game!<BR/><BR/>Worse, worse, worse.<BR/><BR/>Hey, I'm happy that there are quite a number of Moslem Filipino bloggers.the philippine daily idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01290588019083917804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-27679647424370683322009-01-04T14:46:00.000+08:002009-01-04T14:46:00.000+08:00hey, thanks for the post! i might be putting a foo...hey, thanks for the post! i might be putting a foot in the mouth. i'd give the pangandamans the benefit of the doubt. it's the de la pazes' word vs. theirs. <BR/><BR/>and still, even if mr. de la paz is a jackass and evil himself, i'd say the burden of proof is on mayor pangandaman as he has moral ascendancy as an elected official.<BR/><BR/>i'd like to hear from the mayor himself.the philippine daily idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01290588019083917804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-58782270787544385602009-01-04T13:58:00.000+08:002009-01-04T13:58:00.000+08:00gosh! ang dami ng hits ng site nung kabilang blog!...gosh! ang dami ng hits ng site nung kabilang blog!<BR/><BR/>i've deduced from reading comments on both blogs that there are those who accept the fact that the de la pazes provoked the pangandaman that's why they the argument ended into a fist fight.<BR/><BR/>there are those who say that even if the pangandaman were provoked they should have kept their cool because they are public officials.<BR/><BR/>ang plastic ng nagsabi nito! kaya mo kayang mag pa ka cool kung mura-murahin ka na at sundu-sundutin ng payong? <BR/><BR/>if in the ensuing fist fight, the de la pazes won, then there would have been no issue. but, since the de la pazes lost, big deal! they magnify the fact that they were clobbered by the politicians and their goons! <BR/><BR/>in all honesty, have anyone seen the 56 yr old dad and 14 yr old son? is the dad feeble and "lolo" looking? does the son looks like he's 14? are their ages plastered in front of their shirts? <BR/><BR/>other point of view. the de la pazes are the lords and ladies of valley golf club because they live nearby and are constant patrons of the club. i think they were feeling smug and were thinking "hey! this is our territory and i'll show you". the de la pazes should have had the decency to "let it go" too for they were the 1. professional golfers and should be act like one.<BR/><BR/>2. valley golf is their "home court" and they should have treated the guests more cordially.<BR/><BR/>no, i do not personally know the pangandamans and the de la pazes. my opinion is based on the blogs and comments that i've read.desperatebloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07394474557855361562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-18032466447264747252009-01-04T12:55:00.000+08:002009-01-04T12:55:00.000+08:00i read this from a different blog site. is this th...i read this from a different blog site. is this the original site of that entry?<BR/><BR/>anyway, hunny jodi, thanks as well for airing your side of the story. hirap kasi pag isang side lang ang nagpapaliwanag.<BR/><BR/>the problem is, if the dela pazes were the ones doing the mauling, and with a baseball bat or a golf club, dapat merong bruises from the incident, and surely their lawyer would have used those bruises as evidence. i do not believe pwede mong salagin ang isang golf club nang hindi ka magkakapasa, unless the dela pazes were pure wimps. <BR/><BR/>second, how do you explain the injuries suffered by the dela pazes if they were the ones doing the mauling?<BR/><BR/>i noticed you did not state anything about the "kicks" that the dela pazes (according to bambee) suffered. ano ito? selective recounting?<BR/><BR/>alam ko mayayaman kayo. both families. kaya nga you can afford to play golf eh. pero comparing the two accounts, yours and bambee's, and add into the mix that public "servants" ang uncle mo (tama ba? uncle mo si jr?) and lolo mo, who do you think will get the side of the disgrunled people? <BR/><BR/>sorry hunny jodi, your side of the story does not taste well. were you there? were you an eyewitness? if not, then another minus because you are saying "hearsay" accounts. <BR/><BR/>if you were there, and bambee did say in her account that there was a woman in the pangandaman's entourage, was that woman you? in her account that woman was also in the mix.<BR/><BR/>sorry hunny jodi, it should have been nasser jr telling this account, not you.L Rob Tabinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05146995032298783234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-56830480030958976002009-01-04T11:14:00.000+08:002009-01-04T11:14:00.000+08:00One word, Credibility. That's what matters here, w...One word, Credibility. That's what matters here, who is more credible? On the other side, a fairly unknown family, on the other, a high profile politician family... What does the fairly unknown family have to gain from all this? Shame? Chaos? How about the high profile politician family? what do they gain from all of this? Publicity. As they say, "All publicity is Good Publicity, even negative publicity". <BR/><BR/>It doesn't matter who started the fight, the point is, they were politicians, they should've just let it pass, that's what a good leader does, they set a good example... if they left and the Dela Paz' found out that they were who they were they probably would've admired them for not pulling out their guns, so to speak.<BR/><BR/>And I think that religion has nothing to do with it, if it happened to me, and I was up against another fairly unknown family, I'd still blog about it, but that's just me. :D<BR/><BR/>Anyway, they should've just left it to the courts, but I guess they wanted to create a controversy which is why they went to the media... Oh well, that's life. I hope everything gets settled and everybody comes out of it happy and reconciled. Talk about wishful thinking...Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10958830515099058303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-18866471187395198622009-01-04T08:11:00.000+08:002009-01-04T08:11:00.000+08:00you said that you are a pangandaman, do you know a...you said that you are a pangandaman, do you know atty. alim pangamdaman of LTO, butuan city?exseminarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04054652571910915303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-55488707242788555152009-01-04T00:30:00.000+08:002009-01-04T00:30:00.000+08:00To those asking.I AM RELATED TO THE PANGANDAMANS.I...To those asking.<BR/><BR/>I AM RELATED TO THE PANGANDAMANS.<BR/><BR/>I AM A PANGANDAMAN.<BR/><BR/>http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman&start=180hunnyjodihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07390803054423765319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8273623639943910117.post-82779611658939661932009-01-03T23:21:00.000+08:002009-01-03T23:21:00.000+08:00Hi! thank you very much for enlightening me. i hav...Hi! thank you very much for enlightening me. i have read "Bambiatch's" blog first and i spent the whole week thinking if it's true although most of the times, i am totally doubting her side of the story..it just doesn't sound right. i haven't met any of the pangandamans involved but i don't think they are capable of doing those things.<BR/><BR/>i asked my mom about it and from her i knew we are related to the mayor of masiu, believe it or not, he's like my second or third cousin..and i have no idea. well anyway, i knew it! that Bambiatch modified her story so people will side on her..i hope the media gives justice to the pangandamans. i totally hate anti-muslims!!! may they rot in hell! sorry if i sound very aggressive, i am just super irritated right now.Bai a Labihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07259700451364609236noreply@blogger.com